The Pair Program
Welcome to the Pair Program from hatch I.T. The podcast that delivers inside candid conversations with the innovators tackling our most critical challenges. Host Tim Winkler pairs two guests from the worlds of startups, venture capital, and emerging tech spanning defense, healthcare, cybersecurity, energy, manufacturing, and space to explore the ideas, talent, and partnerships driving mission-driven innovation.
“Two Perspectives. One Mission.”
Recent Episodes
Nov. 25, 2025
Supply Chain at Escape Velocity: How InnoFlight and Verigon Are Scaling Secure Space System for the SDA Era | The Pair Program Ep81
Supply Chain at Escape Velocity: How InnoFlight and Verigon Are Scaling Secure Space System for the SDA Era | The Pair Program Ep81 In this episode, Tim Winkler and co-host Mike Gruen sit down with Jeffrey Janicik of Innoflig...
Nov. 18, 2025
Building Space Together: Inside the U.S. Space Force’s Push for Commercial Collaboration | The Pair Program Ep80
Building Space Together: Inside the U.S. Space Force’s Push for Commercial Collaboration | The Pair Program Ep80 In this episode of The Pair Program, host Tim Winkler is joined by Holly Bertrand, Founder and Chief Operating O...
Nov. 11, 2025
AI at the Tactical Edge: Scaling Secure, Warfighter-Centric Tech in Denied Environments | The Pair Program Ep79
AI at the Tactical Edge: Scaling Secure, Warfighter-Centric Tech in Denied Environments | The Pair Program Ep79 In this episode, host Tim Winkler sits down with Tyler Saltsman (Founder & CEO, EdgeRunner AI), Colton Malkerson ...
Nov. 4, 2025
Sea Change: How Autonomy and Acquisition Will Shape the Future Fleet | The Pair Program Ep78
Sea Change: How Autonomy and Acquisition Will Shape the Future Fleet | The Pair Program Ep78 In this episode, hosts Tim Winkler and guest co-host Sean Leahy dive into the intersection of autonomy, AI, and defense acquisition ...
Oct. 28, 2025
The Future of Autonomous Electronic Warfare in Multi-Domain Operations | The Pair Program Ep77
The Future of Autonomous Electronic Warfare in Multi-Domain Operations | The Pair Program Ep77 In this episode of The Pair Program, hosts Tim Winkler and Mike Gruen are joined by Nathan Mintz, Co-founder & CEO of CX2, and Dr....
Oct. 21, 2025
Securing the Industrial Frontier with Frenos | The Pair Program Ep76
Securing the Industrial Frontier with Frenos | The Pair Program Ep76 In this episode, hosts Tim Winkler and Mike Gruen chat with Harry Thomas, CTO of Frenos, and Colin Murphy, Chief Hacking Officer at Frenos, two cybersecurit...