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The Pair Program

Welcome to the Pair Program from hatch I.T. The podcast that delivers inside candid conversations with the innovators tackling our most critical challenges. Host Tim Winkler pairs two guests from the worlds of startups, venture capital, and emerging tech spanning defense, healthcare, cybersecurity, energy, manufacturing, and space to explore the ideas, talent, and partnerships driving mission-driven innovation.
“Two Perspectives. One Mission.”

Recent Episodes

Mission Speed: How Commercial Innovation Is Reshaping Defense Acquisition | The Pair Program Ep92
April 7, 2026

Mission Speed: How Commercial Innovation Is Reshaping Defense Acquisition | The Pair Program Ep92

Mission Speed: How Commercial Innovation Is Reshaping Defense Acquisition | The Pair Program Ep92 In this episode of The Pair Program, we sit down with Darian Harris, Founding GP of Connected Capital and co-founder of Fuse Ac...
Contested Logistics Reimagined: The Case for Dual-Use Air Systems | The Pair Program Ep91
March 24, 2026

Contested Logistics Reimagined: The Case for Dual-Use Air Systems | The Pair Program Ep91

Contested Logistics Reimagined: The Case for Dual-Use Air Systems | The Pair Program Ep91 In this episode of The Pair Program, we’re joined by Arthur Dubois, CEO of Grid Aero, and Lt. Gen. (Ret.) Leonard Kosinski, Chief Strat...
Building Tech For Tactical Decision Dominance | The Pair Program Ep90
March 10, 2026

Building Tech For Tactical Decision Dominance | The Pair Program Ep90

Building Tech For Tactical Decision Dominance | The Pair Program Ep90 In this episode of The Pair Program, we sit down with Garrett Smith, Founder & CEO of Reveal Technology, and Les Craig, General Partner at Next Frontier Ca...
Policy to Production: Fielding Faster, Governing Smarter | The Pair Program Ep89
Feb. 24, 2026

Policy to Production: Fielding Faster, Governing Smarter | The Pair Program Ep89

Policy to Production: Fielding Faster, Governing Smarter | The Pair Program Ep89 In this episode, we sit down with Michael Weigand, Founder & CEO at Aventra, and Joshua Stiefel, Vice President for Government Relations at Seco...
Insurtech at Speed: Engineering the Future of Specialty Insurance | The Pair Program Ep88
Feb. 9, 2026

Insurtech at Speed: Engineering the Future of Specialty Insurance | The Pair Program Ep88

Insurtech at Speed: Engineering the Future of Specialty Insurance | The Pair Program Ep88 In today’s episode, we’re joined by Nathan Hall, Chief Technology Officer at Ledgebrook, and Mike Mansell, investor at American Family ...
From Tickets to Autonomy: Reinventing IT with AI Agents | The Pair Program Ep87
Jan. 27, 2026

From Tickets to Autonomy: Reinventing IT with AI Agents | The Pair Program Ep87

From Tickets to Autonomy: Reinventing IT with AI Agents | The Pair Program Ep87 On today’s episode of The Pair Program, we’re joined by Jake Stauch, Founder & CEO of Serval, and Patrick Chase, Managing Director at Redpoint Ve...

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