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The Pair Program

Welcome to the Pair Program from hatch I.T. The podcast that delivers inside candid conversations with the innovators tackling our most critical challenges. Host Tim Winkler pairs two guests from the worlds of startups, venture capital, and emerging tech spanning defense, healthcare, cybersecurity, energy, manufacturing, and space to explore the ideas, talent, and partnerships driving mission-driven innovation.
“Two Perspectives. One Mission.”

Recent Episodes

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July 14, 2026

Beyond the Quantum Hype: Real Applications, Real Results | The Pair Program Ep99

Beyond the Quantum Hype: Real Applications, Real Results | The Pair Program Ep99 What happens when traditional computing reaches its limits? In this episode of The Pair Program, we’re joined by Martin Sajon and Bill Collier to explore how quantum computing is moving from theory to real-world applications. They discuss where quantum is already delivering value, why it works best alongside AI rather than replacing it, and how organizations can begin preparing for the next wave of innovation. From
July 7, 2026

Built for Pressure: What a 15-Year-Old Professional Muay Thai Fighter Can Teach You About Performing When It Matters

Built for Pressure: What a 15-Year-Old Professional Muay Thai Fighter Can Teach You About Performing When It Matters This special bonus episode explores a different kind of high-performance journey. Today’s guest is Elijah Hinzman, a 15-year-old professional Muay Thai fighter competing on some of Southeast Asia’s biggest stages. While his arena is the ring, the qualities behind his success are the same ones we often explore on this show: discipline, preparation, resilience, and performing under
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June 30, 2026

Founder-Led Growth in the AI Era: Rethinking the CRM from First Touch to Close | The Pair Program Ep98

Founder-Led Growth in the AI Era: Rethinking the CRM from First Touch to Close | The Pair Program Ep98 What happens when your sales stack becomes the bottleneck instead of the growth engine? In this episode of The Pair Program, we are joined by David Zhu, CEO of ReevoAI, and Lukas Haffer, CEO of Casca, to explore how AI-native platforms are reshaping modern sales. They discuss why traditional CRMs are failing founders, how AI can eliminate manual work instead of adding to it, and why connected s
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June 16, 2026

From Snapshots to Systems: Why 3D Earth Awareness Is Becoming Critical Infrastructure | The Pair Program Ep97

From Snapshots to Systems: Why 3D Earth Awareness Is Becoming Critical Infrastructure | The Pair Program Ep97
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June 2, 2026

From Sidewalks to Scale: What It Actually Takes to Build Real-World Robotics | The Pair Program Ep96

From Sidewalks to Scale: What It Actually Takes to Build Real-World Robotics | The Pair Program Ep96 What does it take to turn autonomous robotics from a demo into real-world infrastructure? In this episode of The Pair Program, Paige Craig, Managing Partner at Outlander VC, and Zach Rash, Co-founder & CEO at Coco, discuss scaling autonomous delivery, building operational moats through real-world data, navigating regulation and reliability, and what separates successful robotics companies from th
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May 19, 2026

Designing the Impossible: AI, Quantum Mechanics, and the Future of Materials | The Pair Program Ep95

Designing the Impossible: AI, Quantum Mechanics, and the Future of Materials | The Pair Program Ep95 In this episode of The Pair Program, we’re joined by Joseph Krause, Co-Founder and CEO of Radical AI, and Nathan Doctor, Founder and Managing Partner of Infinite Capital, for a conversation on the future of AI-driven scientific discovery and the rise of physical AI. From autonomous labs and materials science to robotics, semiconductors, and frontier tech investing, the discussion explores how bre

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